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  Evolution is a Fact - Index of Parts 1 - 40

  by cofty in

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  #1 protein functional redundancy comparing the sequences of amino acids in ubiquitous proteins confirms the relationship between all living things..

  #2 dna functional redundancy comparison of the dna that codes for the amino acids of ubiquitous proteins predicts the tree of life with an astonishing degree of accuracy..

  #3 ervs endogenous retroviruses that infected our ancestors are found in the same place of the genome of our closest primate cousins..

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  Coded Logic

  Perry,

  Have you done any research on the evolution of a caterpillar? Why should Crofty be obligated to do your research for you?

  And why haven't you read any of the posts or links provided by other posters who have answered the question you asked?
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  Evolution is a Fact - Index of Parts 1 - 40

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  #1 protein functional redundancy comparing the sequences of amino acids in ubiquitous proteins confirms the relationship between all living things..

  #2 dna functional redundancy comparison of the dna that codes for the amino acids of ubiquitous proteins predicts the tree of life with an astonishing degree of accuracy..

  #3 ervs endogenous retroviruses that infected our ancestors are found in the same place of the genome of our closest primate cousins..

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  I don't understand why Perry is being so rude. Checking out what scientists have to say about their respective fields is NOT "going to check with the elders".

  Elders are NOT experts in bibliography nor history nor anything else in which they so confidently make proclamations. They're merely regurgitating WT dogma.

  Conversely, scientists actually do research and analysis in the fields and submit their findings for peer review. And instead of addressing any of this very real science that Crofty and everyone else has brought to the table Perry instead just tries to hand wave it away by falsely equating it to Watchtower BS. He's a total troll who isn't interested in any kind of honest discussion.
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  Evolution is a Fact - Index of Parts 1 - 40

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  #1 protein functional redundancy comparing the sequences of amino acids in ubiquitous proteins confirms the relationship between all living things..

  #2 dna functional redundancy comparison of the dna that codes for the amino acids of ubiquitous proteins predicts the tree of life with an astonishing degree of accuracy..

  #3 ervs endogenous retroviruses that infected our ancestors are found in the same place of the genome of our closest primate cousins..

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  Alright Perry, I'll take up your challenge. What would it take to change your mind about evolution?
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  Evolution is a Fact - Index of Parts 1 - 40

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  #1 protein functional redundancy comparing the sequences of amino acids in ubiquitous proteins confirms the relationship between all living things..

  #2 dna functional redundancy comparison of the dna that codes for the amino acids of ubiquitous proteins predicts the tree of life with an astonishing degree of accuracy..

  #3 ervs endogenous retroviruses that infected our ancestors are found in the same place of the genome of our closest primate cousins..

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  Coded Logic

  For someone who has zero scientific training, higher scientific education or professional experience in the sciences, I think you have done an excellent job in posting (for the umpteenth time) a synopsis of other peoples' work.
  - Perry

  Why is Perry such a jerk? Instead of addressing any of the issues raised by Crofty Perry instead tries to go after Crofty's level of education.

  It seems that Perry does not know two things:

  1.) The validity of a claim is either true or false regardless of who's making it. Attacking the education of the person making the claim says nothing about the accuracy of the claim.

  2.) Finding a list of people who agree with you in no way makes your claim anymore likely to be true. Simply because I can post a list of people who believe the earth is flat in no way makes the flat earth hypothesis anymore likely.
  
  
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  "But it gives my life meaning"

  by Coded Logic in

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  it's not enough that we simply raise empirical challenges to these iron age beliefs saying, "jesus didn't really rise from the dead" or "muhammad didn't really fly to heaven on a horse.

  " we must also give no quarter to this falsehood that religion can give peoples lives real meaning.

  the truths about our identity, experience, and the future impacts that our decision will have on the world around us are much deeper and more profound than any culture or religion.

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  Attack bad ideas but let's not have derision for people who find comfort or purpose in their belief systems.
  -Crofty

  
  But that's exactly what it is. We are attacking BAD IDEAS. Not people. This notion that religion and superstition can afford peoples lives with "true meaning" is a complete and utter falsehood. It's the mother of all religious lies. It's even more vacuous and even more empty than all the stories in all the "holy books" that religious leaders use to prop up their followers sense of destiny. This notion - bought and swallowed by the billions - really is an insidious vandalism upon the human condition - because so many people have squander so much good will and so much effort in the service of the most vile and offensive fairy tales that our world has ever seen.
  
  Carl Sagan once said, "If we crave some cosmic purpose then let us find ourselves a worthy goal." Well I for one say that capitulation to the iron age gods is most certainly NOT a worthy goal. And the wasted aspirations to that end have very real and long lasting consequences for all of us.
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  Caption Comp 

  by Tallon in

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  well now; filming on the set of 'planet of the apes' was a blast.

  being the 'muscle' in general aldo's militia was a great opportunity for kicking some serious butt.

  i'm looking forward to having another crack at it.. .

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  "Now truly I say unto you - the least of you who gives me a banana will by all means inherit the kingdom of the simians."
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  "But it gives my life meaning"

  by Coded Logic in

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  it's not enough that we simply raise empirical challenges to these iron age beliefs saying, "jesus didn't really rise from the dead" or "muhammad didn't really fly to heaven on a horse.

  " we must also give no quarter to this falsehood that religion can give peoples lives real meaning.

  the truths about our identity, experience, and the future impacts that our decision will have on the world around us are much deeper and more profound than any culture or religion.

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  Just because Santa doesn't exist, doesn't mean belief in him can't give lots of Childrens lives hope and meaning over Christmas.

  Isn't the truth about Christmas far deeper and more profound than a belief in Santa? The fact that loving parents buy their children gifts? The fact that good will and the spirit of giving come from us and not some magical being - isn't this more empowering?
  The same is true of religion. The truths about our lives are far more meaningful than any religious claim.
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  "But it gives my life meaning"

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's not enough that we simply raise empirical challenges to these iron age beliefs saying, "jesus didn't really rise from the dead" or "muhammad didn't really fly to heaven on a horse.

  " we must also give no quarter to this falsehood that religion can give peoples lives real meaning.

  the truths about our identity, experience, and the future impacts that our decision will have on the world around us are much deeper and more profound than any culture or religion.

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  It's not enough that we simply raise empirical challenges to these iron age beliefs saying, "Jesus didn't really rise from the dead" or "Muhammad didn't really fly to heaven on a horse." We must also give no quarter to this falsehood that religion can give peoples lives real meaning. The truths about our identity, experience, and the future impacts that our decision will have on the world around us are much deeper and more profound than any culture or religion. They are, in fact, deeper than EVERY culture and EVERY religion. Because these truths don't just "give meaning". They are, more importantly, actually meaningful.
  
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  Creationist on their death bed

  by Coded Logic in

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  i would really like to read the thoughts of an creationist as they lie on their deathbed.

  their honest thoughts.

  their terrors.

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  if there is no God then there certainly will be an afterlife.
  -SBF

  Why would there be reason to believe there would be an afterlife if there is no God?

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  Also, you do realize there are living people who are brain dead. A person can be alive and simultaneously a mental vegetable. I'd also point out that even within the narrow scope of our own personal experiences, we too are not guaranteed consciousness. There are several hours every night, between our states of REM while we sleep, where we entirely lack consciousness.
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  Creationist on their death bed

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i would really like to read the thoughts of an creationist as they lie on their deathbed.

  their honest thoughts.

  their terrors.

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  I would really like to read the thoughts of an creationist as they lie on their deathbed. Their honest thoughts. Their terrors. Their nightmares. I would like to crawl deep into the recesses of their mind and see it for myself.

  Do they really believe all that noise they spread? As they lay there contemplating their final breaths, do they really believe that soon, they will start a new life. In our ever changing world that teeters on the brink of annihilation, they believe that none of this even mattered and they can just jump into a "perfect" new world?

  Do they really believe that they will be alive, truly alive, forever, like they somehow existed before they were born?

  Or in that final time, do they entertain that ever prevalent notion that they will become unconscious forever. That this life is the only one they get.